BBC misunderstands Darling's commons answer?

Northern Rock logoThe BBC is claiming on Nick Robinson's blog, Today and The Daily Politics that back in November Alistair Darling agreed in the commons with Jim Cousins that the nationalisation of Northern Rock would bring terrible effects. Jim Cousins made a complex two part question, and I think the BBC has misunderstood Darling's two part answer. Listen to the question - what do you think?

The BBC's allegation is that Alistair Darling agreed with "the policy of nationalisation would lead to a slow lingering death for the jobs of the Northern Rock workers, its assets and Britain’s reputation as a major financial services centre, with my right hon. Friend the Chancellor cast in the role of undertaker—and that only by finding a successor business to grow on those jobs, assets and reputations can we offer any real prospect of the taxpayers getting their money back?"

But here's the full quote from the commons from 19 Nov 2007, annotated Q1/A1 and Q2/A2 with my view on how the answers relate to the quote/question:

Jim Cousins: [Q1] The whole House will have noted that the Liberal Democrats have as much regard for the 5,500 employees of Northern Rock in the north-east—and the 6,500 nationally—as they had for the job of their former leader. [Interruption.] Two or three faces in public, 10 in private—that is the policy of the Liberal Democrats. [Q2] Does my right hon. Friend accept that the policy of nationalisation would lead to a slow lingering death for the jobs of the Northern Rock workers, its assets and Britain’s reputation as a major financial services centre, with my right hon. Friend the Chancellor cast in the role of undertaker—and that only by finding a successor business to grow on those jobs, assets and reputations can we offer any real prospect of the taxpayers getting their money back?

Speaker: Order. I remind Members that they must ask brief supplementary questions.

Darling: [A1] I agree with my hon. Friend. It is regrettable and surprising that the Liberal Democrats never seemed to support our earlier proposals to keep Northern Rock open. [A2] It would also, however, be a mistake to shut off all other options and simply go for one at this stage; that does not seem to me to make any sense at all.

The BBC is alleging A1 is in answer to Q2, but I believe Darling intended that A1 as agreement with Q1 only. His A2 is in answer to Q2, not what the BBC suggests. Darling could have been clearer though.

The misleading of the audience so far cannot be undone, but I hope the BBC will stop repeating this allegation.

Also on The Daily Politics Andrew Neil claimed the last nationalisation was in the early 1970s. Wasn't Johnson Matthey Bankers nationalised in 1984 by the Tories when it ran into trouble?



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Re: BBC misunderstands Darling's commons answer? (#1)

Good points.

Re: BBC misunderstands Darling's commons answer? (#2)

Isn't Jim Cousins on the left of the party? Wouldn't you expect an anti-nationalisation streak to come from those like Frank Field or Gisela Stuart.

Re: BBC misunderstands Darling's commons answer? (#3)

It's even worse for the BBC than the post says, for Hansard has been caught inserting punctuation in a way which subtly changes the meaning of what was actually said. See Nick Robinson's blog: what Alastair Darling actually said was "I agree with my hon. Frend that the Liberal Democrats .." - in other words, the agreement was explicitly limited to the later part of Jim Cousin's remarks.

Meanwhile, Johnson Matthey was not actually nationalised but its administration was taken over by the Bank of England under its powers; the same thing happened to Slater-Walker in the 1970s, but this process is not the same as nationalization; it does not change the ownership.

Re: BBC misunderstands Darling's commons answer? (#4)

Yes, amazing. Nick Robinson made an apology of sorts on Today this morning.

The difference in Darling's reply is more than "that I think" in the lead-in; Hansard has made a quite significant rewrite of what Darling said! I've marked the changes in bold below, comparing BBC's tape transcript and Hansard:

Tape: I agree with my honourable friend that I think it is regrettable that the Liberal Democrats who never actually seemed to support the proposals we made earlier to keep northern rock open and I think that's regrettable and very surprising but I think it would also be a mistake to shut off all other options and simply go for one at this stage that doesn't seem to me to make any sense at all.

Hansard: I agree with my hon. Friend. It is regrettable and surprising that the Liberal Democrats never seemed to support our earlier proposals to keep Northern Rock open. It would also, however, be a mistake to shut off all other options and simply go for one at this stage; that does not seem to me to make any sense at all.

I'll look at Hansard in a new light now!